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		<title>Numbers &#8211; holy or unholy?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I remember back over my last years as part of church staffs, some of the more &#8220;heated&#8221; debates was over this term &#8211; numbers.
Anytime a church leader begins to discuss their desire to reach people, build a big church, break a numeric barrier, get off a growth plateau or add numbers there is usually [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">As I remember back over my last years as part of church staffs, some of the more &#8220;heated&#8221; debates was over this term &#8211; numbers.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Anytime a church leader begins to discuss their desire to reach people, build a big church, break a numeric barrier, get off a growth plateau or add numbers there is usually a confrontation from the super-spiritual.  Comments are fired at the leader like, &#8220;God is worried about quality, not quantity,&#8221; or &#8220;bigger is not always better,&#8221; or &#8220;now, don&#8217;t be prideful pastor.&#8221; Often as pastors prepare to give their &#8220;vision speech,&#8221; they open with a disclaimer like, &#8220;Not that I am worried about numbers, but&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;Not to compete with the church down the street, but&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;If God&#8217;s will is for us to stay this size then fine, but&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Why is that we as church leaders feel compelled to make excuses for growth? Is church growth bad? What about numbers are they holy or unholy?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Well, good news for us church growth fanatics&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>There is an entire book of the Bible called Numbers. (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-2">&#78;&#117;&#109;&#98;&#101;&#114;&#115;&#32;&#49;&#58;&#49;&#45;&#50;</a>)</li>
<li>Jesus himself drew crowds. (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+8%3A1">&#77;&#97;&#116;&#116;&#104;&#101;&#119;&#32;&#56;&#58;&#49;</a>)</li>
<li>God takes the credit himself for growth. (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+3%3A6">&#49;&#32;&#67;&#111;&#114;&#105;&#110;&#116;&#104;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115;&#32;&#51;&#58;&#54;</a>)</li>
<li>The book of Acts has several numerical growth indicators.  <em>After Peter preached the church grew from 120 to 3,120.</em> (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A41">&#65;&#99;&#116;&#115;&#32;&#50;&#58;&#52;&#49;</a>)</li>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know, maybe its the old football coach in me, but the idea of a scoreboard makes sense.  I think as the church we ought to know the score.  Call it my carnality or sin nature, but deep down inside I want to win!  After all didn&#8217;t Apostle Paul call this a spiritual wrestling match? That is &#8220;rastlin&#8221; in Tennessee!  (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A12-13">&#69;&#112;&#104;&#101;&#115;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115;&#32;&#54;&#58;&#49;&#50;&#45;&#49;&#51;</a>) And didn&#8217;t Christ come and deliver a knock-out punch on the cross? (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A57">&#49;&#32;&#67;&#111;&#114;&#105;&#110;&#116;&#104;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115;&#32;&#49;&#53;&#58;&#53;&#55;</a>)</p>
<p>Thanks to one of my church leader heros, <a href="http://www.churchleaderinsights.com/blog">Nelson Searcy</a>, I have coined (or stolen) a new term called, &#8220;Maximum Redemptive Potential&#8221; (MRP). Now, that term helps to spiritualize growth.  It helps to make numbers holy!</p>
<p>Here is the concept&#8230; God&#8217;s desire is that every individual, small group, ministry, and church reach its Maximum Redemptive Potential.  As followers of Christ we have a MRP and God wants us to get there.  As a church its the same.  This is equally true for our small groups and ministries.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s Word says that we have been handed the ministry of reconciliation, as God is making His appeal through us. (<a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5%3A18-20">&#50;&#32;&#67;&#111;&#114;&#105;&#110;&#116;&#104;&#105;&#97;&#110;&#115;&#32;&#53;&#58;&#49;&#56;&#45;&#50;&#48;</a>)  Jesus died for the redemption of the world. God commissioned his disciples to make redeemed disciples.  Through our individual and corporate Maximum Redemptive Potential God&#8217;s plan continues!  We all have a part to play in God&#8217;s redemptive master plan.</p>
<p>Here is the question&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>For you personally: are you reaching your MRP?</li>
<li>For your small group: are you reaching your MRP?</li>
<li>For your church: are you reaching your MRP?</li>
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<p>I feel better about numbers already and I hope you do.  If you have reached your MRP, then you have grown enough, your small group can end, and your church can be satisfied.  If you haven&#8217;t then let&#8217;s concern ourselves with numerical growth!  Imagine what it would be like if we all achieved our Maximum Redemptive Potential&#8230;</p>
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		<title>10 Things I Learned During My Leave – #1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#1 &#8211; I need Jesus &#8211; bad.
*** I warn you this is a brutally honest blog.***
When asked about my recent leave of absence many asked, &#8220;How was your vacation?&#8221; or &#8220;How was the sabbatical?&#8221;  Let&#8217;s get this straight &#8211; it was neither a vacation or a sabbatical.  I have to be honest &#8211; those five [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>#1 &#8211; I need Jesus &#8211; bad.</h2>
<p><em>*** I warn you this is a brutally honest blog.***</em></p>
<p>When asked about my recent leave of absence many asked, &#8220;How was your vacation?&#8221; or &#8220;How was the sabbatical?&#8221;  Let&#8217;s get this straight &#8211; it was neither a vacation or a sabbatical.  I have to be honest &#8211; those five weeks messed up my routine.  I felt the pressure that many &#8220;stay-at-home Moms&#8221; feel.  My schedule was wide-open family stuff from daylight to past dark.  Moms &#8211; I feel your pain.</p>
<p>The most important part of my day is my personal time with God.  My schedule over the last few weeks wasn&#8217;t as conducive to that as my regular &#8220;pastor &#8211; dad&#8221; schedule.   ATTENTION: THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR SPENDING TIME WITH GOD.  Here is how <a href="http://evotional.com/">Pastor Mark Batterson</a> said this in a recent blog on a similar subject, <em>&#8220;If you want to grow spiritually, you need a consistent diet of Scripture.  In fact, you will never outgrow your consumption of Scripture. There is no substitute. There is no supplement.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>While I was out playing the role of &#8220;disneyland dad&#8221; as I call it&#8230; running from big moment to big moment&#8230; I realized that I developed the following symptoms: I was grouchy, selfish, irritable, complaining, short-tempered, tired, lazy and spiritually numb.  The symptoms were easily recognizable by all, especially my spouse and kids.  Someone actually said, &#8220;I will be glad when you go back to work!&#8221;  Work is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> what I needed.  What I needed was Jesus.  I was missing my daily time with God.</p>
<p>I need Jesus &#8211; bad.</p>
<p>For me, this was an eye-opening experience of how easy it is to fall-out of the routine or discipline of spending time with God.  Every week at <a href="http://www.bethelclarksville.com/scmedia.php?type=recent&amp;loc=www.bethelclarksville.com/media/media/recent.php&amp;">Bethel Community Church</a> we stress the importance for every follower of Jesus to read the Bible.  A huge part of growing in God is spending time with God through worship, prayer, and His Word. Reading your Bible is much like physical exercise&#8230; every day that you miss it, it is much easier not to do it the following day as well.</p>
<p>One more warning for pastors and those in ministry&#8230; Bible reading has to be for personal devotion.  Often times we read/study to see what God would say <span style="text-decoration: underline;">through us</span> instead of spending time with God to see what He wants to say <span style="text-decoration: underline;">to us</span>!  As pastors and leaders, we must recognize the priority to be a Christian first and spiritual leader second.  We can only minister from what is within.</p>
<p>I need Jesus &#8211; bad.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of Bible reminders on the subject:</p>
<ul>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+4%3A8">&#74;&#97;&#109;&#101;&#115;&#32;&#52;&#58;&#56;</a> &#8211; Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.</li>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A6">&#77;&#97;&#116;&#116;&#104;&#101;&#119;&#32;&#53;&#58;&#54;</a> &#8211; Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.</li>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Peter+2%3A2">&#49;&#32;&#80;&#101;&#116;&#101;&#114;&#32;&#50;&#58;&#50;</a> &#8211; Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation.</li>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+119%3A72">&#80;&#115;&#97;&#108;&#109;&#32;&#49;&#49;&#57;&#58;&#55;&#50;</a> &#8211; The law from your mouth is more precious to me than thousands of pieces of silver and gold.</li>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+119%3A105">&#80;&#115;&#97;&#108;&#109;&#32;&#49;&#49;&#57;&#58;&#49;&#48;&#53;</a> &#8211; Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path.</li>
<li><a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Timothy+3%3A16">&#50;&#32;&#84;&#105;&#109;&#111;&#116;&#104;&#121;&#32;&#51;&#58;&#49;&#54;</a> &#8211; All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that all God&#8217;s people may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.</li>
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<p><strong>My response? <em> Repent.</em> </strong>To steal a line from the late King of Pop, &#8220;make a change.&#8221;  I believe it was Einstein who said, &#8220;<span>Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.&#8221;  Confess your mistake and start fresh today.  <a class="biblegateway_link" href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+28%3A13">&#80;&#114;&#111;&#118;&#101;&#114;&#98;&#115;&#32;&#50;&#56;&#58;&#49;&#51;</a> &#8211; &#8220;</span>He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, But he who <span style="text-decoration: underline;">confesses and forsakes</span> them will find compassion.&#8221;</p>
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